Millicent
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Erika: Welcome to this week's episode of The Working Moms of San Antonio podcast. We have our guest Millicent on. Yeah. And she is going to, um, share a little bit more about what she's got going on.
Millicent: Yeah. Thanks, uh, thanks for having me today. Yes. I really appreciate it. Normally I'm on your side-
Erika: Yes ...
Millicent: with, so- How
Erika: fun
Millicent: so I have my own podcast. I started, um, in April of '25. Okay. So it's still a baby, and it was also one of those things, like, do I really wanna tack something else on to being a single mom- Yeah ... and having a full-time job? Do I really wanna give myself another job?
Erika: Yes.
Millicent: But it was-
Erika: But as women, we just do. We always do, don't we?
Millicent: No, we do, and we figure it out. Yeah. Like, [00:02:00] I'm like, "Why is my hair falling out?" Yeah. I have no idea why I've gained 30 pounds. Because of that.
Erika: These are the reasons. Yeah.
Millicent: But I, I also was kind of, um, in a place where not every podcast was for me.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: And I was just kinda, like, searching for pods of things that I wanted to kinda hear about, and, um, I also have some private things going on with custody with my, my daughter, and I was kind of at this crossroads of like, okay, if I can't find the help, let me be the help.
Um-
Erika: Yeah,
Millicent: I
Erika: love that.
Millicent: Yeah, I, well, 'cause it just kinda, like, I was searching retreats, you know, all these places to try to find answers. I've been in therapy. I'm a big advocate of therapy. I've been in therapy a long time.
Erika: Sure. Yeah.
Millicent: And- I've
Erika: done that as well ...
Millicent: even my therapist was kinda like, "This is not up my alley.
Maybe try another therapist." And I still wasn't getting-
Erika: Yeah ...
Millicent: kinda answers that I was searching for. [00:03:00] Um, and then I was like, you know what, maybe I should just start talking about things and having people on, and maybe it'll help me in the process, but if it helps just one person-
Erika: Yeah ...
Millicent: maybe. So, 'cause, you know, what a silly time to start a podcast, right?
In 2025, where everybody already has one.
Erika: Yeah. But you know, I just don't think that even matters. You know what I mean? Like, uh, just briefly before we got on here, we were talking about how I'm in real estate. You can't but throw a rock and hit another real estate agent. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean?
That's true. Like- But I still do well. You know, I still have my clients. I have my referrals and stuff. And so I just feel like we are not always for everybody, but we are for people, and those people will find you, and I bet they find your podcast.
Millicent: They, they have. And, uh, you know, shameless plug, it's All the Rumors Are True, and I was shocked that that name- I would
Erika: listen based on the name.
Millicent: Right? I mean, that's kind of, that's kind of where... That name just, like, stuck out to me. I grew up, um, in a small town, and it was like everything [00:04:00] about you, you know, was a rumor. Yes. You couldn't do anything without the rumor being about you. And so when I was in the process of talking to the people that work on the pod with me and brainstorming, I was like, "See if it's an LLC already.
See if it..." And it wasn't. And I was like- That's wild ... I was like, "That's meant to be." Yeah. And I was like, but also, how could you not... All the Rumors Are True, like what a great name.
Erika: Yeah. '
Millicent: Cause- The rumors are true, right?
Erika: Right.
Millicent: So like- They
Erika: are if you,
Millicent: they are what you think they are, yeah ... they are if you believe them, right?
So it's like, I was like, "This is perfect."
Erika: And- I think that's a Lizzo song, right?
Millicent: It is. So when you go on YouTube to look for me, the first thing that pops up is Lizzo, and then the second is our podcast.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: Yeah.
Erika: See, we're cool as ever. We know about Lizzo. We're-
Millicent: Right? Right? I might be almost 40, but I'm, I s- Yeah.
I'm still cool. Yeah. I'm a cool mom. Um, so yeah, so I s- I started this pod and it's kind of crazy, like you said, the people that have found me.
Erika: Mm-hmm.
Millicent: Um, one pod that [00:05:00] really took off at first was, uh, I'm no contact with a lot of my family, and so I did a pod about it, uh, with a girlfriend of mine, and that was kinda the one that kinda set me off.
It was-
Erika: Yeah ...
Millicent: and, and I was only a few pods in at this point. And, um, this lady, it was the first message I'd ever received from, like, a stranger, and she was like, "I went into YouTube and typed, 'What do you do on the holidays when you don't speak to your family?'"
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: And she found my pod. Like, I don't, I... Her algorithm somehow, and that pod came up, and she found me on Instagram and sent me a message and was like, "This has helped me."
And I was like, "Okay, like, I've helped one person. That was my goal in this." And then- Yeah ... the next podcast I had, like, a family law attorney, and I've had a therapist, I've had doctors. Like, I, again, if you can't find the help, be the help. Yeah. And a lot of people can't afford therapy or a dermatologist, things like that, and so I'm like, "Well, come on my pod and give all your tips and tricks for the people that [00:06:00] just maybe can't, you know, they don't have insurance at the time or..."
And again, I mean, it's expensive. You know, everything's expensive. Of
Erika: course, yeah. What isn't now? I feel, yeah,
Millicent: I feel like everything is just kind of out of control expensive, but, um, podcast is, like, my hobby. I like it. It's helping people. But, uh, I run, um, an alcohol publishing company. That's my actual job.
That's what I get paid for.
Erika: Explain to me what that means.
Millicent: I know. It, everyb- everybody's like, "I, I don't, I don't understand. Like, you're a distributor?" And I'm like, "No, no, no, no, no." So I've kinda- Is
Erika: it, like, a physical publication?
Millicent: Um, it's online.
Erika: Okay.
Millicent: So the company actually turns 28 in January, so it's been around, and my boss obviously was very ahead of the game making an online- Yeah
publishing company back then because newspapers were still such a thing, and now they're beyond a dying breed. You know, magazines and newspapers are, they're, they're on their way out. That's right. Sadly. [00:07:00] Yeah. Which I, I like physically holding something, um, I read.
Erika: Yeah, sure.
Millicent: And I- Same ... but I go buy the book.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: I have a Kindle. I've probably used it twice. I just, I'm like- Yeah ... I don't, I, I don't want the technology. If I'm on vacation, I wanna hold this book, or if I'm on a plane, um, 'cause I travel quite a bit with work. And so- Uh, I somehow got into this industry. So I coined it the news of booze.
Erika: I love that.
Millicent: 'Cause that's like- ... that's just kind of like the easiest way.
Erika: I'm gonna have to have you name some of the things that I go forward to do.
Millicent: I know. I, I come- ... I'm very witty with, like, the one-liners. Yeah. Like something... So because every time someone's like, "Well, what do you do again?" So, you know, you have, like, Fox, CNN, MSNBC, wherever you get your news, your news outlet for what's going on in the world.
So for the alcohol and just beverage industry, 'cause now non-alc has become so large-
Erika: Yes ...
Millicent: so we cover that as well. Um, we don't do food. It's literally all liquid. Um, so we [00:08:00] publish, we have three publications. It's Beer Business Daily, Craft Business Daily, and Wine & Spirits Daily. So we have editors that work on all three publications, and we publish three times a day, five days a week.
So it's like the new- I mean, it's literally the news- Yeah ... but- But for booze. For booze. For, for liquid. Which
Erika: I don't hate.
Millicent: No, I mean, I don't either. It's, it's honestly, uh, it's, it's been a wild ride. Yeah. I mean, this is not what I d- when I graduated college, um, I was running marketing and admissions for nursing homes.
So, like, you couldn't get more opposite of-
Erika: Yeah ...
Millicent: what I do now. I've, I've lived a lot of lives.
Erika: Yeah, that does seem wildly less fun.
Millicent: Oh, wildly. But I loved the nursing homes, 'cause I like, I, I have, like, an affinity for elderly people. Sure. I don't, I don't... I just love... They, they have the best advice and wisdom, and I love hearing stories, and I, I loved what I did, but I'm glad that I got out when I did 'cause of COVID.
Like, that would've not been-
Erika: Oh, that was so tough. Yeah,
Millicent: yeah. That, I, I wouldn't have been able to be in healthcare [00:09:00] during those ti- the mask times. Like-
Erika: Sure ...
Millicent: just not at all. So ended up here, started off, like, as an intern, um, and now I'm the president of the company, but I mean, it's been 10 years.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: So, you know, a lot of people- see that I'm 39, and they're like, "Oh, wow."
And I'm like, "No, it did not happen overnight." Sure. Uh, there was a lot of, lot of long days, long nights. I had to travel a ton.
Erika: Oh, yeah.
Millicent: Like, a ton, because you have to build the relationships and, you know, you have to put in the work. Uh, and everybody- And
Erika: having a child as well.
Millicent: Oh my gosh. Yeah. And yes, and I'm a single mom.
So, uh, it was challenging, but I made it happen. You know, I, I look back and I'm like, "How did I manage?" Like, "How did I do this?"
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: And it's like we just, I don't know, we're subhuman.
Erika: I know.
Millicent: Like, w- we really are.
Erika: I think men as well.
Millicent: Like, we really are. Like, we can balance so many things. That's why when I see women crash out, I'm like, "You deserve that."
Yeah. Like, throw your fit.
Erika: Relax.
Millicent: Yeah. Yeah. [00:10:00] Throw your fit. Get, scream at somebody because whatever you're screaming about, you had been holding it for a while.
Erika: Yes. Yeah. Like,
Millicent: let it out. Don't get an autoimmune disease. Right. Like, yell at
Erika: somebody. Exactly. And chances are they deserve it. Like, it's fine.
Millicent: Oh, yeah.
It, I, I, anytime I see somebody crashing out, especially a woman, I'm like that, you, you're, you got what was coming, but- Yeah ... like, something bad was about to happen. But I mean, I, I had, you know, a village of people. Um, I don't have any family here in town. I have a great aunt here, but you know, she was, she couldn't help with, like, a little girl.
Sure. So I had a live-in nanny for a while because I had no choice. I was like, "I have to work in order to pay bills." Like, I- Yeah ... I, you know, I unfortunately am not one of those ones that gets to go to the mailbox and just checks the mail- Yeah ... and doesn't have to work.
Erika: Yes.
Millicent: No, I say unfortunately. That's such a lie, 'cause even if I were one of those people, I'd still work.
Erika: Yeah,
Millicent: same. But I, yeah. Like, I'm like, no, I, I, I could be independently wealthy and I still couldn't s- just [00:11:00] sit there and rot away.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: Um, so I, you know, I had to do a lot to get to this point. Um, and you know, I caught a lot of flack. And one thing, anyone listening, you know, on, on this pod, you know, don't let the, this mom guilt thing, you know, it's bullshit.
Don't- Yeah ... don't let people do that to you. I remember I was on a flight, uh, to Manhattan years ago, and um, I, like I said earlier, I cut off a lot of family. I did the whole n- no contact thing, which was, like, the really best thing I could have done.
Erika: Yeah. '
Millicent: Cause a lot of that, you know, you expect the negativity from, like, your haters, but not your family.
Erika: Oh, sometimes it's 1,000 times worse though from your family.
Millicent: It's way worse. You know? Yeah. In my opinion, you, you get it way worse. And you also feel like a, a different amount of, like, guilt from your family, 'cause it's like, well, they know me better than anybody, and they're guilting me. Anyway, I had a stepsister, and she sent me just, like, the most vile text, [00:12:00] and I'm flying to Manhattan.
I cried the whole flight. Mm-hmm. And that's a long, that was like a three-hour flight. I cried the whole flight. It was mom guilting me because- I wasn't somewhere for my daughter. It wasn't like a birthday. It wasn't, it wasn't anything. Yeah. And I'm like, "Okay, well, you don't work. You don't have to work. Your husband provides for you."
Like-
Erika: Yeah, and also like I would love to know how that's her business.
Millicent: Any of it.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: Any
Erika: of it. I'm very curious to know. Oh.
Millicent: No, but really like what- It's not ... what was that about? And you know, I felt the whole flight there I cried. I felt like shit the whole time- Oh, that's the worst ... I was gone in my meetings.
I wasn't my full self, so I wasn't giving my full self to clients. Like it just... And then finally I've, when that, and this had happened multiple times to me- Sure ... for multiple different quote family members. And then finally one day I was just like, "You know what? Y'all really aren't paying my bills. Like I, I'm out here trying to be able to send my daughter to do nice things."
And I, I, it was like I, I just hope [00:13:00] anybody listening kind of like hears that- Yeah ... because the mom guilt thing I, I'm not cool with. I'm not, I just don't think it's fair because like a man doing what I do like is praised.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: And then me being a single mom doing what I'm doing is like, "Oh, well, yeah."
You're gonna have to give and take, and sometimes your cup's gonna be emptier on the other... So when I'm working more, uh, yeah, of course I'm not spending as much time with my child, but then there's times where, uh, then I'm working. You know, it's a, it's a balanced system.
Erika: Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, I can relate to that.
I come from a, um, I like to say a Latina adjacent family. We- my mother's Portuguese. Okay. From, from Portugal, like the real deal. And, uh, she has a lot of opinions about how much I work and, you know, all of those things, and she stayed at home and it was like a whole thing. And, and so it- now I think we have better boundaries because she sees that my...
I have three daughters. Um, the oldest is 14 and the youngest is eight. I had to really think hard on that [00:14:00] eight. Um, and so, uh, now I think she sees that they see what I'm doing, and your daughter totally sees what you're doing. Um, and we're setting good examples and like all of those things, but it took like several come to Jesus conversations, and we're still not even perfect, that every once in a while it'll still slip out where it's like, "Well, Erica, you should...
Why aren't you doing this? You should really be..." And it's like I finally had to tell her, I was just like, "I enjoy working. I like working."
Millicent: Yeah.
Erika: Um, it's just a part of my personality, and so you can get good with it or we're not gonna talk about it anymore. Right. You know?
Millicent: Well, and also, you know, you should be very, like you said, setting the example.
Yeah. You should be proud of the daughter that you raised- Yeah ... because you're showing your girls, yes, we can have it all.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: I mean, we re- we really can. Sure. Of course sometimes it's a give and take, but anybody that says, you know, "You can't do it," it's like, "Okay, watch." Yeah. And
Erika: I- That is my personality very much as well.
Like, watch. It's like, okay, well now I'm gonna have to do it and I'm gonna have to do it 50 times harder than I was before.
Millicent: And I'm gonna do it better. Thanks a lot. Yeah. You, [00:15:00] that was motivation. Yeah. Thank you. That, that rumor is true.
Marie: Yes.
Millicent: Well, one thing, I grew up, uh, in a household that, uh, my mother worked, um, and she worked a lot.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: And so I saw it, so it was just kind of- I don't know. It was what I was used to.
Erika: Sure.
Millicent: I never, I never really got fl- I don't speak to her anymore. Um, I never got flack from her because she- there's no way she could say anything because- She understood, yeah ... she worked all the time, and it was always like she was never at the school things and stuff like that.
And I've made, like, a big conscious effort, um, to not miss those things for my daughter, 'cause I r- that always kind of stuck out to me. But then once I got older and realized like, oh, and I was, you know, I've been doing it on my own. So it was like-
Erika: Right ...
Millicent: I- you, you have to- sometimes I couldn't make things for her, sometimes I could.
But the mom guilt thing, like, I just hope that that's hopefully becoming a thing of the past, 'cause that, that has just irked me-
Erika: Yeah ...
Millicent: so, so mu- [00:16:00] like, certain things just get under my skin, and then they just kind of stay there and keep- Yeah ... like festering, and that one thing I hate, you know. And, and I also hate the question, too, you know, "What does your husband do?"
And I'm like, "I don't have a husband."
Erika: Yeah. Thanks so much.
Millicent: Thanks. Oh, oh, yeah, I, I bought my own house, right? Yeah. Like, it's like, no, I, I
Erika: don't- That's not a thing I would ever... I mean, if they're speaking about their husband, you might say like, "Oh, cool, what does he do for work?" Or like, whatever. Right. But like I wouldn't e- that's not like an initial thing that I would ever think to ask somebody, not knowing if they are married or not.
Millicent: That's so provincial.
Erika: That's very strange.
Millicent: It's strange. The fact that people still ask me that is wild. I know. I'm like, it's 2026, like stop.
Erika: Like- You know what, Millicent? They walk among us. You just have to know. I
Millicent: was talking about how the caliber of clients, like it's crazy because And as you definitely see in real estate, you never judge a book by its cover.
Erika: No.
Millicent: Oh my Go- but like, so I deal with like Anheuser-Busch distributors, Molson Coors, Constellation. [00:17:00] So these people, dependent on how big their, um, distributorship is, you know, they sell one to three to four, five million cases of beer a year, okay. Yeah. So then you can only imagine, right? Sure. And I remember one of my first, like conferences, this is back in 2016, and I go and I'm meeting all these people, and not a clue, like not a single clue they were wealthy like they were.
Well, anyway, so I walk up to this one man. This one man, his name is Jim Koch, and I- Yeah ... you've probably seen his commercials. He owns Boston Beer Company. Yes. So I walk up to him and I'm like, "What do you do? Who are you?" He's like, looks at me and he's like, "I'm Jim Koch." And I'm like, "Oh, okay." Yeah. I'm like, "Where do you work?"
And he's like, "Um, Boston Beer Company." And I was like, "Oh, like what do you do there?" The own- this man is worth $3 billion. I love it. And I'm like, "Who are you? What do you do?" I, I got humbled very quickly in this industry. Yeah. [00:18:00] I had no clue the alcohol industry had so much money, which is ignorant to not think that.
I
Erika: mean, I would imagine it does. Yeah, we all need it, so.
Millicent: Yeah. And- We sure do. And, and now with non-alc, the pe- even the people that don't drink, non-alc is become ginormous.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: We just cover, I mean, we cover everything in the industry, but we were just going over 4th of July sales, and this blew my mind. So the top three in the United States for beverage s- alcohol sales, number one was Michelob Ultra, which that didn't shock me- Yeah
you know, 'cause they just sponsored the World Cup, and Michelob Ultra does very well 'cause everybody thinks it's like the diet beer. And I'm like, "If you ever did your research, you would see that it's just one calorie less than a Miller Lite." Yeah. Right? And, and they pretty much taste the same.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: But it's been presented to the consumer, it's the skinny can and it's the diet beer, and it's like, no.
Yeah. If you did your research, you would see. But Michelob Ultra was number one. Number two were RTDs. So [00:19:00] RTD is ready to drink, so that's like a High Noon, um, things that have either malt, which is techni- taxed as beer, or liquor, which you can only get at a liquor store, you know, in Texa- in certain states.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: And then number three was non-alc beer.
Erika: And now when you say that, like I remember there were periods of time where my dad would like decide he was like gonna be healthy or whatever, and he would like drink an O'Doul's or like whatever, like an, like a true non-alc- That was like the holy non-alc forever
yeah, like that's what it was. But when you say that, does that also include like now they're having all these drinks that have like- THC- Yeah ... and like all the things, you know, whatever. Like, there are those things, and that is technically included in that as well-
Millicent: In, in the non-al- '
Erika: Cause it's not alcoholic
space. Yeah.
Millicent: Right. Um, and now, you know, there's so many loopholes, uh, around, so like if you just go up here to the local liquor store or Specs or Total Wine, like more known ones, um, you know, they sell a lot of the THC, CBD beverages- Sure ... and [00:20:00] that doesn't have alcohol in them. Anytime somebody tries to like ask me questions about it, I'm like, "I couldn't even try to explain what's in that."
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: Like how it's- I don't know ... THC, how it's CBD, and how if it truly is, how is it sold in Texas? Because it's not legal in Texas.
Erika: Right. So I'm like- I don't know the rules about all of that ... I
Millicent: mean, I know like-
Erika: Although I will take a gummy to go to sleep every once in a while.
Millicent: Really? Yeah. So I have, I've never tried-
Erika: But they're ones you can buy online
gummies. I mean, it's not like-
Millicent: You, you can go to the c-store, the convenience store-
Erika: Right ... and buy
Millicent: them ... and that's
Erika: what I mean. Like, I like a brand called Feels, um, and I'm not affiliated with them, but maybe I should be.
Millicent: But- Sponsor.
Erika: Yeah, I wish. Um, no, and they are great, and you buy them online, and it's like it's not a huge deal.
It doesn't make you feel high or like any of that stuff, but it's just like it's relaxing, and you know, whatever, and you, it's e- makes it easier for me to fall asleep 'cause God knows all day long I'm like this. Yeah, 'cause- So- ...
Millicent: your mind's still racing-
Erika: Yeah ... when
Millicent: you lay down at
Erika: night. Um, and so but I asked my husband that too, and I guess, I mean, I could have probably ChatGPT'd him because that's what I do for [00:21:00] everything.
But- ... um, I was like, "How can I get this shipped to here?"
Millicent: Right.
Erika: Um, and neither of us really knew, and I'm not sure how, how it works. But it ca- that can't be, um- That's can't be, like, real pot. I mean, it's- No ... there's no way.
Millicent: No, there's just- Well, there's just no way, and any time somebody's like, "So what's actually in it?"
I'm like- Mm-hmm ... "I don't know, dude." I'm like, "You're... I might run the company," but, like, when you get into technicalities like that, I'm like- Yeah ... "I have no clue." And one large brand right now, um, which are clients of our... Pretty much any brand you can name is a client of our- They read us. Because, like, that's how they get their news.
Yeah. Like, if you own a brand, you, you contact us, and then we have a competitor, um, and we're very friendly. He's based in New York. We're based here. Um, we go to his conferences. He comes to ours. So you pay to read us or him, one of us to know, and one big brand right now is The Willie's Remedy. That is just, like, flying off the shelves.
That's
Erika: Willie Nelson's stuff.
Millicent: Yes.
Erika: Yes. He- I have seen [00:22:00] that.
Millicent: It is flying. I have yet to try it.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: Um, it is flying off the shelves, and I'm like, "Okay, what's in this shit?" Because-
Erika: Yeah ...
Millicent: they can sell it here in Texas at the store. So I'm like, there's no, like, uh, at the li- it's at the liquor store. I know.
Which is crazy to... And but it ha- it all has to do with, like, your federal level, your state level, 'cause every state is different.
Erika: Sure.
Millicent: There, there is a big thing coming up in November, and it's, uh, I think, going to take possibly these drinks and gummies and things like that away.
Erika: Oh.
Millicent: Yeah, so that's coming up in November, so we're ex- we're-
Erika: That's another thing where I just can't even imagine, like, why that matters to somebody.
You know what I mean? Like, why?
Millicent: No.
Erika: But no, but there, it's fine. Like, let people... Let me sleep if I wanna sleep.
Millicent: Well, every- everyone I know that, like, takes the gummies or all that, that they can get at the store, it's all at bedtime.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: It's not like they're all day just, like, chugging THC drinks.
Erika: Either, either take them away and make my life somehow [00:23:00] better that I don't need that stuff-
Millicent: Right
or
Erika: just leave them where they're at. Or just leave it. Let me, let me be.
Millicent: Well, and the, and it, it's, I mean, it's a money game, obviously, right? Like, everything in our industry, everything in pretty much every industry, right? It's all about money. Yeah. And it's like, who's gonna make the most money, and who's gonna benefit the most from it?
They're not really concerned about the consumer, right? Yeah. Like, you're making consumers happy and sleep better, but-
Erika: Yeah ...
Millicent: if we're not profiting on it, then it's probably not gonna happen. Yeah, this, um, I actually was with the owner of, uh, the company yesterday, and we were talking about it, because since we're the news, like, we stay up, and I'm like, "What do you think about November?"
He's like, "I think they're, I think they're gonna take it away." Yeah. And I was like, "You really do this time?" 'Cause it happens every, like- Once in a
Erika: while ...
Millicent: every six months or so, somebody starts to get antsy, and, and we've already dealt with all the tariff stuff-
Erika: Yes ...
Millicent: you know, with the, 'cause, you know, most beer is in an aluminum can, and non-alc, and the THC, you know?
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: So, uh, the industry is always changing. Like, it's [00:24:00] ne- it's never, uh, every day, I, you know, I wake up and I read our publications, obviously.
Erika: So that you know things, right? Yeah. Like, and you've gotta research and do the things, and yeah.
Millicent: And, and every day it's something different. And it's also crazy too, you know, these THC drinks and all that, um, you know, there's a lot less drinking going on.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: Um, a lot more non-alc in a gummy or non-alc in smoking-
Marie: Mm-hmm ...
Millicent: or non-alc in a THC drink. 'Cause with the THC drinks, you know, you can have one or two and, and that's it.
Marie: Mm-hmm.
Millicent: Um, so we've seen a lot of people switch to that, you know, because they think it's better for their health. And I mean, there's not, there's not enough research on that yet to know, but we do know what's in alcohol and-
Erika: Yeah
Millicent: you know, what- And what it
Erika: does to our livers.
Millicent: We, we can't... And our kidneys and our- Yeah ... the, a lot of thing, you know, so we can't, I, I can never sit here and say like, "Oh yeah, alcohol's great for you." No, we know. Yeah. It's just like cigarettes. Like-
Erika: Sure ...
Millicent: there's warning labels.
Erika: Oh, but man, I wish they weren't.
Millicent: Right? Nothing like a good [00:25:00] cig and a drink. Oh, man. Oh, gosh. We're, we're millennials. Uh, we're- We're, we're aging
Erika: ourselves
Millicent: right now. We're millennials, I can tell. No. No. I mean, that was like- Back when I was- Yeah ... in college, I mean, it was everybody smoked.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: But I ha- I have started to notice this trend at, you know, with work, 'cause we co- you know, we cover a lot of stuff, and smoking is coming back with these young kids.
The vaping is-
Erika: Yeah ...
Millicent: kind of dwindling, and these... and when I say kids, I mean, you know, like 21-year-olds-
Erika: Yeah, they're smoking again ...
Millicent: are smoking cigs. I'm like, "Okay."
Erika: Yeah. "
Millicent: Maybe humanity's healing. I don't know."
Erika: Yeah. I don't know. Ri- That's super interesting.
Millicent: I know. It's crazy to me. Yeah. It's, um... I mean, I love to see it.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: They- drinking is still not a high priority. They don't like to be hungover, and also, um, they're very conscious with their money. And they, if they have a $20 bill, they would rather go buy a pack of Zens. Like Zens are very big now.
Erika: You know, I have heard even my friends talk about that.
Millicent: Oh, it's- And
Erika: [00:26:00] it's what?
wild. Like a, like a- It's
Millicent: a nicotine pouch.
Erika: Oh, yeah. Uh-huh.
Millicent: But it's huge. Like ridiculously huge. How interesting. They're- they sell out. I mean, it's constant, but if they have a $20 bill, they're like, "I'd rather buy Zens and get on and gamble." Like all the DraftKings- Oh ... stuff now, you know, all that.
Erika: With the sports.
Millicent: Yeah. Yeah. And they're like, "I don't wanna go to a bar."
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: Which, like, I co- I mean, I couldn't wait to turn 20. I, when I turned 18, I would go clubbing- Yeah ... in club, and I'm like, how are clubs even still alive? I don't even know- I don't know ... if they're still a thing.
Erika: I don't know. We used to go to the gay ones, and they were the best.
Millicent: Oh, the best.
Erika: I loved it so much.
Millicent: The absolute... So much fun. You
Erika: go somewhere and you dance with your friends, and no one's really gonna grab on you that much, and it was the best.
Millicent: No.
Erika: The best.
Millicent: Those, I'm telling you, those were like the days. Yeah. And now it's so weird for me to see, you know, 'cause we- How about
Erika: the 2000s?
Millicent: Really, though. They were so good. The music- ... just everything. Our crazy eyeliner, eyeshadows. Yes. I [00:27:00] used to put concealer on my lips and thought I was like the- Yes ... just hot shit. Yeah.
Erika: Why was that a thing? Why- I don't know ... did we need to make it look like we had no lips? And now- Like you were dying ... all we want is lips.
Millicent: That's, that's, that's so- It
Erika: was the same with brows. It was like, "Hey, we d- we, nobody can look like they have brows," and now all we want is brows.
Millicent: First of all- Permanent ones ... first of all, I have, I have no brows because I over-plucked so long.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: Like, and I got microblading, and that did nothing really.
Yeah. I mean, like I have four hairs on my- ... eyebrows. I'm not even kidding. Don't zoom in 'cause you'll see it. And now I see ki- they have caterpillars on their fucking face. I'm like, I, what?
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: I-
Erika: It's a big thing.
Millicent: It's a thing.
Erika: My best friend does eyebrows, like the, the- permanent ones for a job. Um, she has a wonderful studio here in, in San Antonio called Vanidosa Beauty Studio.
Um, she constantly looks at mine and are like, "They're basically not there," like, "Why are you not letting me do this?" And I'm a little bit afraid- Do it ... because, like, I'm so fair. Um, but you're fair as well.
Millicent: Do it, yes. Yeah. I have on a lot of fake [00:28:00] tanner.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: I, because I'm so white, and I don't like being white, but it's too hot to sit outside.
Yeah. So I just put on- ... self-tan shit at home all the time. No, get them done. Yeah, I have to. So I got them done because I, I'm, there's probably, like, 10 hairs here and, like, seven here.
Marie: Yeah.
Millicent: Like, it's so bad. And my, my dad's always dragging me. He's like, he's like, "Why don't you let them grow out?" And I'm like, "Bro, they don't grow."
I'm like, I plugged in- This is grown out ... th- this is grown out. The fact that I even have these is astonishing. But I got, I got it microbladed and changed my life, 'cause then I can actually leave the house without makeup on.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: I mean, they don't look great 'cause I, I did it so long ago, and it was really janky.
I didn't do it in a right way. This, like, girl that had tattoos, like, head to toe was like, "Yeah, I can come to your house and do it." And I'm like, "Sure."
Erika: Definitely. Do it in my kitchen.
Millicent: She did. First session was in the living room, second was in the kitchen. And I was, like, mother effing the entire time 'cause it hurt so bad.
Erika: Yeah. '
Millicent: Cause she didn't have medicine.
Erika: Oh. 'Cause she- Like, nothing to numb. Yeah ... we're
Millicent: just raw dogging it.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: Like, [00:29:00] one of the dumbest things I've ever done. I've done a lot of dumb things, but- ... yeah, I think you should do it. I'm a proponent for it because, like- Yeah ... you and I obviously grew up around the same time.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: We don't have eyebrows, we like cigarettes- Yeah ... we liked clubs. All the things. Like, all the th- and you said your eldest is 14.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: Anything like that pique her attention?
Erika: Uh, no. I mean, well, we homeschool our kids, and so I feel like- Oh ... they don't, like- That- ... they're not, like... I mean, she's out in the world, but she's not, like, fully.
She's not out in the world like I was out in the world, you know what I mean?
Millicent: I, I was out. I was in the streets. Same. 'Cause I grew up in a small town, so it was like we went to people's ranches and drank down back roads. And did bonfires-
Erika: Yep ... and yes.
Millicent: Yep. And it was like, it was absolutely normal to be in high school and drinking back then.
Yeah. I mean, it was like everybody did it. Yeah. And now I look back and I'm like, "That was so bad." Yeah. Like, you should not be drinking at those ages.
Erika: I know. Yes. Your brain is so not- No, I mean, honestly, same, you know? And it's just... But I don't lie to her about it. Like, you know, she's asked me, like, "Hey, you know, when is the first time you drank?"
Or like, [00:30:00] "When's the first time you had sex?" Or like, you know, these questions. Um, and I mean, I tell her straight up. I'm like, "Hey, I'd like for you to wait a little longer than I did, you know? I don't need you to be doing that at, like, 15 years old," but- Do
Millicent: as I say,
Erika: not as I do ... yeah. Yeah. But, I mean, I'm not gonna lie to you and say that's not shit that was happening- Right
'cause it was, you know?
Millicent: Right.
Erika: Um, and I just, I think I do those things too because I want her to be able to tell me things and talk to me about things. Always. And I feel like if I'm honest, then she'll be honest.
Millicent: Yeah, you need transparency. I, uh, did not have that sort of relationship, um, with my mother. I did with my dad.
They were divorced, but, um, her and my stepfather, just very strict human beings. Yeah. And it made me rebel.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: Like, I, I defin- and that's one thing that I am not, uh, as a mother now.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: Because I'm like, it's just gonna make her do the opposite of what I'm telling her. Like, it just-
Erika: And she's not gonna tell you.
Millicent: She's not gonna tell me anything. And she- and what if
Erika: she gets into a position where it's like she needs [00:31:00] your help and she feels like... I just never want them to feel like they can't call.
Millicent: Right.
Erika: You know?
Millicent: You al- well, you should be the number one person- Yeah ... they should call with no judgment. And sure, there should be repercussions if they did something bad.
Sure. But not right then in the moment. It's like, okay, let's put out the fire. But al- I, I feel like having that open communication is so necessary- Yeah ... 'cause I didn't have it, and I regret a lot of things I did when I was younger. You know, I never did anything crazy. I nev- I've never been in trouble with the law or anything like that.
Sure. But I just, if I would've been able to go to her with things- Um, I just would have definitely made a lot of different other, other decisions. And other kids that I grew up with that had very strict parents were in the same boat as me.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: And the ones whose parents were kind of like, "Oh yeah, do whatever," those were the ones that didn't do anything because they were, they had the freedom to do it.
Erika: Yes. I remember going to college. I went here at UTSA, and with some of our friends and stuff whose parents were very strict, and they went like hog wild, like as soon as they got away. Oh. And it's like, [00:32:00] oh my gosh. You know, I knew better than... I mean, I still had to like have a job and like do life. I couldn't be out like they were out, you know what I mean?
Like- Oh, I
Millicent: did all of the above. I worked and partied and- but it was like the second I moved out of home the day after I graduated high school.
Erika: Yeah. I moved out actually before I graduated high school.
Millicent: Oh, love that.
Erika: Very, very shortly before, but I had my own apartment for a few months before we graduated.
Millicent: Love that.
Erika: Yeah. I- I had to get out of there. But it's,
Millicent: but it's crazy because kids now aren't leaving home. Yeah. They're not getting driver's license, and I'm like, I couldn't wait for the second I turned 16 to take the test, and the second I turned 18- Yeah ... and graduated to move out. And now kids don't. Uh, one of the girls, uh, that works for me, she has a 22 and 20-year-old.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: They both just got their driver's license, but they both still live at home. Yeah. It's like the weirdest thing, and I'm
Erika: like- I don't know what's going on. Us too, we've got a friend who the son goes to college, and the mo- Like up at UTSA. They live down in Divine. And [00:33:00] the mom or dad like drives him back and forth.
Millicent: Uh, that's the, the girl that works for me was driving her son to college. Like he went a couple of days a week. Well, it's an hour there and an hour back, and she was driving him like two or three days a week, and I was like, "Girl." I was like, "Why doesn't he want a license?" She's like, "He just doesn't want it.
He doesn't want to live on campus." And I'm like- It's way, like I- It's
Erika: gotta be, like, a generational thing It ha- I don't know what's going
Millicent: on ... to me it had, to me the only difference is social media. Because, like, when we were, when I was in college and high school and all that, we didn't have that.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: Like, at high school especially, no social media.
No. MySpace came out, like, when I was around 18.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: But it was, you know, and I got Facebook when you had to have a college email to sign up- Same ... for Facebook.
Erika: Yes, same.
Millicent: Yeah, and so it just wasn't, like, back then, you know, we didn't, we weren't home.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: And now everybody's just like this, and I hate that.
Everybody's just on TikTok or whatever, on their phones. I hate that.
Erika: I know. I always say if I didn't have to have it, like, it for work, I would just wouldn't [00:34:00] even... I don't wanna be on there.
Millicent: Well, running an online publishing company- ... I am attached to my devices. It does feel like you need to be
Erika: online.
Millicent: I, I am constant- I run our socials.
We have thousands of clients that- Yeah ... can call or text at any given moment. I mean, it's like seven days a week I'm on. So I've now gotten to the point, DND goes on my phone, like, at around 6:00 every day.
Erika: Yeah. Good for you.
Millicent: I have to- Yeah ... because it, it's got to be a little too much, and I think that's another reason why, like, I like reading physical books and things, because I'm just, like, constantly on a screen.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: And it's, you know, I'm, I'm kinda, I'm tired of it. I, I like- Yeah ... unplugging. Like, last night I saw my phone- I had like five people text me. It was 9:00, and I was
Erika: like- Oh, my anxiety would've been like racing.
Millicent: Well, normally for me it w- is, and I'm jumping- Yeah ... through my ass, and I'm like, "I have to look that," and I was like, "I'm gonna go to bed."
And I didn't text back till 8:00 this morning.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: That was a, that was a big thing for me-
Erika: Yeah ...
Millicent: today.
Erika: [00:35:00] Good. '
Millicent: Cause I'm like- I'm
Erika: proud of you.
Millicent: Thank you. But we all need to be more mindful of that.
Erika: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I always say, and it's the... I mean, there are elements of my job that obviously have deadlines, you know, there's option periods and- Right
you know, what, like things where it's like, "Okay, we have to have this information by..." But like n- no one will die if they don't hear from me- No ... until tomorrow. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not like somebody's surgeon or- No ... you know, whatever.
Millicent: Right? No, like, nobody's gonna die like- Yeah ... if I don't text back or-
Erika: That's right.
Millicent: But I, I also feel, when I first, when my boss first, uh, announced me president of the company, I felt like I needed to be available quite literally 24/7 'cause I was like, "Okay, this is a big title."
Erika: Yeah. "
Millicent: This is a big responsibility. You know, you need to be on, on, on." And I slowly started seeing friends around me crashing out, burning out, just because w- we've all had jobs since we were 15.
Erika: Yes.
Millicent: Literally.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: And around my, uh, my [00:36:00] friends, I'm, I'll be 40 next year, and my friends are around that, and I started seeing some crash outs happen with some of them. And I was like, "Okay, I don't need to prove myself. I, you know, I, just because I close my phone for the evening doesn't mean I'm not doing my job."
Erika: Right.
Millicent: But I finally had to get to that point 'cause I was like this is... Even with my boss, because he doesn't, he wor- he works seven days a week.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: So on Saturdays and Sundays he'd call and whatever, and I'd be like, "Yeah, sure," like, "Let's meet up and work." And then finally I was like, "I have to put this boundary up myself 'cause nobody's gonna put it up."
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: And the guilt has gone away, 'cause I felt, like, guilty at first. I was like, "Oh, I'm not responding." Then I'm like, "No, you know what? 'Cause I'm gonna crash out." Yeah. "I'm gonna burn out, and it's not gonna be good. And if I'm not good, then nobody else is good." So it's like-
Erika: No, totally.
Millicent: Yeah. I
Erika: think, too, a lot of it is, like, about setting expectations ahead of time.
Like, I feel like if I say to my clients, like, "Hey, I work, you know, you can usually get me till like 7:00 at night, but after that I'm with my kids," um, they typically will respect [00:37:00] that. But if I am the one that's texting them or, like, being like, "Hey, just so you know, this is going on," or like blah, blah, blah, and it's late, then they think they can get me anytime.
Marie: Yes.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: Yes. And well, and one thing that really, uh, is hard too for just e- everyone that I work with is we have clients everywhere.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: Overseas. All the time zones. Yeah. All, all the time. There's been times we set our alarms and wake up at 2:00 and 3:00 in the morning to take calls from Europe, and that I've definitely put a kabosh to.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: If I have to talk to anybody overseas, um, I'll do it like at 6:00 in the morning. But not, like, there's times I wake up at 2:00 or 3:00 to- Yeah ... take a call, and I'm like, "Those days are done."
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: Um, one of the girls that works for us, she lives in, um, California. So that one's kind of hard 'cause she'll text sometimes at 6:00, so it's 8:00, and it'll be a question.
Of course, like, it'll be about insurance or something, and then the next day I'm like, "Hey girl, sorry, like I- [00:38:00] I-" The time zones, it just messes me up too much. I- I'm like, "I'll talk to you tomorrow." 'Cause it's like, it's too hard to keep up with all the places.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: I'm like- I
Erika: know, you almost need like- On a map
in like an old school movie- Yes ... like where they would have like all the different clocks that were like right next to each other. Literally,
Millicent: though.
Erika: They were like at the different time zones of like what was happening.
Millicent: And I always get real confused with Colorado and Arizona and those because some- the some are an hour
Erika: Yeah, I think it depends on- An hour
when we're doing the- It's like- When we're doing the, what do they call that thing? The daylight savings.
Millicent: Oh, yeah.
Erika: Sometimes it's X amount of time, and sometimes it's another amount of time- Yes ... depending on the time of year we're in, I believe. Because some of those states don't do that.
Millicent: No. Yeah. So dealing with somebody like in Montana, I get confused.
There's certain states I'm like, "I don't know what freaking time it is. Sorry, I just called." Yeah. 'Cause I don't... For me, it's 6:00 in the morning, and it's, you know, 4:00, 3:00 or 4:00 AM for them. And I'm like, "Oh, my bad."
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: Some of it, I know East Coast is an hour ahead.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: And West Coast [00:39:00] is two hours behind.
That's pretty much all I got. Everything else I'm, like, Googling. I'm like, "What time is it over there?" What time is it right now? Yeah, what time is it in London? 'Cause I don't have any idea.
Erika: How funny. Yeah. That's too funny. Oh my gosh, well this conversation has been a hoot. This has been one of my faves.
Millicent: Yay.
I love it.
Erika: Yeah, so I just wanna thank you for being on. Yes. And would you share with our listeners how they can get ahold of you, um, for your business and your podcast?
Millicent: Yes. So, um, our company Instagram is schupubs, that's S-C-H-U-P-U-B-S. Um, uh, oh, that's on Instagram, and then my, I'm just [email protected]. So it's pretty, pretty straightforward.
That's easy. Yeah. Yeah, our website's beernet.com. Very easy, and every time, that's a, that's fun when I have to give my email to a doctor or whatever. They're like, "Beer?" And I'm like, "Yeah, beer, like you drink a beer." I, I have to have some sort of analogy. Um, and then my podcast is All The Rumors Are True, and that's on YouTube, Spotify, and it's just All The Rumors Are True podcast.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: And you'll see me [00:40:00] pop up. I h- I actually have, um, my feet propped up on a keg.
Erika: Oh. '
Millicent: Cause that's apropos 'cause it ties in what I do for a living.
Erika: Sure.
Millicent: And then I'm in a sweatshirt and sweatpants, which is usually what I'm in all the time.
Erika: Yeah.
Millicent: And then I have a mask on my head.
Erika: Oh, how cute.
Millicent: I, well, I sleep with a mask every night.
Yeah. And it became a running joke because I would literally answer Zooms from, like, any client and forget the mask was on my head. Oh. So it became, like, a joke. And I was like, "This rumor is true." Yeah. Like, I have a mask. That's probably another reason why I don't have freaking eyebrows. 'Cause the mask, the mask is always right
Erika: Just taking all the hairs off.
Millicent: Just taking the very few that I have.
Erika: Oh my gosh, maybe just put it up a little bit.
Millicent: Yeah, a little bit. I mean, the, my forehead's big enough. There's enough space up here.
Erika: It's
Millicent: so funny. Trust me.
Erika: We will put that, some of that information into the show notes. So people can find you.
Yeah. But thank you again for being on. Yeah, yeah. It's been so good. Thanks for having me.
Millicent: It's been great.
Erika: Yes. And thank you, um, to the listeners of the Working Moms of San Antonio podcast, and we will catch you [00:41:00] guys next time.
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